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		 <title> RE: Team3S: VR4 repair
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A long-ass day, yes.&#60;br /&#62;
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And this time of year, it can turn into 2-3 long days, easily.&#60;br /&#62;
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On 12/2/08, &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#x72;&#38;#98;&#38;#x67;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#105;&#38;#107;&#38;#64;&#38;#x74;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#117;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#110;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x74;&#34;&#62;&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#x72;&#38;#98;&#38;#x67;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#105;&#38;#107;&#38;#64;&#38;#x74;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#117;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#110;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x74;&#60;/a&#62; &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#x72;&#38;#98;&#38;#x67;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#105;&#38;#107;&#38;#64;&#38;#x74;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#117;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#110;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x74;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#x72;&#38;#98;&#38;#x67;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#105;&#38;#107;&#38;#64;&#38;#x74;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#117;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#110;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x74;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;; wrote:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; San Francisco is within a day of Seattle no?&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  -----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  From: &#38;quot;Tyson Varosyan&#38;quot; &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#114;&#38;#97;&#38;#110;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#114;&#38;#x61;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#114;&#38;#97;&#38;#110;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#114;&#38;#x61;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:13:44&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  To: &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#x72;&#38;#98;&#38;#x67;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#105;&#38;#107;&#38;#64;&#38;#x74;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#117;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#110;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x74;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#x72;&#38;#98;&#38;#x67;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#105;&#38;#107;&#38;#64;&#38;#x74;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#117;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#110;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x74;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Here is the deal - you got to find the right person. For me, an engine problem like that does not scare me much. I would check compression on all 6 cylinders, maybe drop the oil pan (provided that the owner would let me do this prior to sale). If things looked right (as you say they should), I would have no problem paying $2k for an otherwise good condition car. I have done more than 10 engine swaps on these cars, remember the vacuum diagram by heart, have 3 blown motors to pull parts from and even have a spare ECU laying around. I really wish you were closer to Seattle - I even have my own tow rig...&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Tyson Varosyan&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Technical Director, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#x74;&#38;#121;&#38;#x73;&#38;#111;&#38;#110;&#38;#x40;&#38;#117;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x2D;&#38;#116;&#38;#x69;&#38;#109;&#38;#101;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#99;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#34;&#62;&#38;#x74;&#38;#121;&#38;#x73;&#38;#111;&#38;#110;&#38;#x40;&#38;#117;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x2D;&#38;#116;&#38;#x69;&#38;#109;&#38;#101;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#99;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  www.up-times.com&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  206-715-TECH (8324)&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  -----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  From: Edward Vinces [&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#101;&#38;#100;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#111;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#109;&#34;&#62;mailto:&#38;#101;&#38;#100;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#111;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#109;&#60;/a&#62;]&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:36 AM&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  To: &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#114;&#38;#97;&#38;#110;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#114;&#38;#x61;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#34;&#62;&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#114;&#38;#97;&#38;#110;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#114;&#38;#x61;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Thank you for your input, the car was running fine until the ECU started giving me problems 2 years ago. I do not mind spending money repairing it, but I am not going to keep the car after it is fixed, just was wondering if it is wise spending over $1000 on it.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  I could have missed something when I reinstalled the plenum but I do not have time to work on it.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  I am in Pacifica, CA, by San Francisco.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  I am going to start it again, hook up the data logger to it and check for any error codes and check for a vacuum leak.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Ed&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  -----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  From: Willis,Charles E [&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#67;&#38;#104;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#108;&#38;#x69;&#38;#115;&#38;#64;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x72;&#38;#103;&#34;&#62;mailto:&#38;#67;&#38;#104;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#108;&#38;#x69;&#38;#115;&#38;#64;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x72;&#38;#103;&#60;/a&#62;]&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:41 AM&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  To: &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#101;&#38;#100;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#111;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#109;&#34;&#62;&#38;#101;&#38;#100;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#111;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#109;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Btw did you ever do anything with the injectors? Did you ever change the fuel filter? Why are you suspicious of a problem in reinstalling the plenum? It only goes back on one way. Are you thinking that there is a vacuum leak there?&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  ----- Original Message -----&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  From: Willis,Charles E &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#67;&#38;#104;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#108;&#38;#x69;&#38;#115;&#38;#64;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x72;&#38;#103;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#67;&#38;#104;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#108;&#38;#x69;&#38;#115;&#38;#64;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x72;&#38;#103;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  To: Willis,Charles E&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Sent: Tue Dec 02 08:29:49 2008&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  selling it broken is a bad choice - basically it's going to go for salvage value.  If you don't have the coin to get it running, then you don't really have an alternative.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Chuck&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  -----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  From: Edward Vinces [&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#101;&#38;#100;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#111;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#109;&#34;&#62;mailto:&#38;#101;&#38;#100;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#111;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#109;&#60;/a&#62;]&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:50 PM&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  To: Willis,Charles E&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  My 91 VR4 with 150,000 miles has been out of service for almost 2 yrs,&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  started with plugs 1 and 3 not firing, after 2 attempts to repair both ECS&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  and ECU computers, replacing coils, spark plugs and cables, it never ran&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  well at all, gas leaks, etc. I may have done something wrong when I&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  reinstalled the plenum.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  I am planning to have it towed to Winn Motors in San Francisco for&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  evaluation and repair.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  My question is: I have seen similar cars on EBay for under $3000, I am going&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  to sell the car anyway.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  How much is it worth spending on a repair? I have to pay $110 for&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  evaluation, probably about $150 for towing, reregister the car and smog it.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  The car was in OK shape before it broke, tires and wheels are fair.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  What would you recommend me to do?&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Thank you,&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;  Ed Vinces&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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		 <title> RE: Team3S: VR4 repair
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		 <description>&#60;p&#62;San Francisco is within a day of Seattle no?&#60;br /&#62;
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-----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;
From: &#38;quot;Tyson Varosyan&#38;quot; &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x67;&#38;#114;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#x40;&#38;#116;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#x72;&#38;#97;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#109;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#x74;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x67;&#38;#114;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#x40;&#38;#116;&#38;#x69;&#38;#103;&#38;#x72;&#38;#97;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#109;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;
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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:13:44 &#60;br /&#62;
To: &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#114;&#38;#x62;&#38;#x67;&#38;#110;&#38;#105;&#38;#x6B;&#38;#64;&#38;#116;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#x75;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x74;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#114;&#38;#x62;&#38;#x67;&#38;#110;&#38;#105;&#38;#x6B;&#38;#64;&#38;#116;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#x75;&#38;#x73;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x74;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;
Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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Here is the deal - you got to find the right person. For me, an engine problem like that does not scare me much. I would check compression on all 6 cylinders, maybe drop the oil pan (provided that the owner would let me do this prior to sale). If things looked right (as you say they should), I would have no problem paying $2k for an otherwise good condition car. I have done more than 10 engine swaps on these cars, remember the vacuum diagram by heart, have 3 blown motors to pull parts from and even have a spare ECU laying around. I really wish you were closer to Seattle - I even have my own tow rig...&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
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Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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Thank you for your input, the car was running fine until the ECU started giving me problems 2 years ago. I do not mind spending money repairing it, but I am not going to keep the car after it is fixed, just was wondering if it is wise spending over $1000 on it. &#60;br /&#62;
I could have missed something when I reinstalled the plenum but I do not have time to work on it.&#60;br /&#62;
I am in Pacifica, CA, by San Francisco.&#60;br /&#62;
I am going to start it again, hook up the data logger to it and check for any error codes and check for a vacuum leak.&#60;br /&#62;
Ed&#60;br /&#62;
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-----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;
From: Willis,Charles E [&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#67;&#38;#x68;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#108;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#105;&#38;#115;&#38;#x40;&#38;#109;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#100;&#38;#101;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#114;&#38;#x67;&#34;&#62;mailto:&#38;#67;&#38;#x68;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#108;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#105;&#38;#115;&#38;#x40;&#38;#109;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#100;&#38;#101;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#114;&#38;#x67;&#60;/a&#62;] &#60;br /&#62;
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Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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Btw did you ever do anything with the injectors? Did you ever change the fuel filter? Why are you suspicious of a problem in reinstalling the plenum? It only goes back on one way. Are you thinking that there is a vacuum leak there?&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
----- Original Message -----&#60;br /&#62;
From: Willis,Charles E &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#67;&#38;#x68;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#108;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#105;&#38;#115;&#38;#x40;&#38;#109;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#100;&#38;#101;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#114;&#38;#x67;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#67;&#38;#x68;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#108;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#105;&#38;#115;&#38;#x40;&#38;#109;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#100;&#38;#101;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#114;&#38;#x67;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;
To: Willis,Charles E&#60;br /&#62;
Sent: Tue Dec 02 08:29:49 2008&#60;br /&#62;
Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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selling it broken is a bad choice - basically it's going to go for salvage value.  If you don't have the coin to get it running, then you don't really have an alternative.&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
Chuck&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
-----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;
From: Edward Vinces [&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#101;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#115;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#99;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#34;&#62;mailto:&#38;#101;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x40;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#115;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#99;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#60;/a&#62;]&#60;br /&#62;
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Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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My 91 VR4 with 150,000 miles has been out of service for almost 2 yrs,&#60;br /&#62;
started with plugs 1 and 3 not firing, after 2 attempts to repair both ECS&#60;br /&#62;
and ECU computers, replacing coils, spark plugs and cables, it never ran&#60;br /&#62;
well at all, gas leaks, etc. I may have done something wrong when I&#60;br /&#62;
reinstalled the plenum.&#60;br /&#62;
I am planning to have it towed to Winn Motors in San Francisco for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation and repair.&#60;br /&#62;
My question is: I have seen similar cars on EBay for under $3000, I am going&#60;br /&#62;
to sell the car anyway.&#60;br /&#62;
How much is it worth spending on a repair? I have to pay $110 for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation, probably about $150 for towing, reregister the car and smog it.&#60;br /&#62;
The car was in OK shape before it broke, tires and wheels are fair.&#60;br /&#62;
What would you recommend me to do?&#60;br /&#62;
Thank you,&#60;br /&#62;
Ed Vinces&#60;br /&#62;
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		 <title> RE: Team3S: VR4 repair
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Here is the deal - you got to find the right person. For me, an engine problem like that does not scare me much. I would check compression on all 6 cylinders, maybe drop the oil pan (provided that the owner would let me do this prior to sale). If things looked right (as you say they should), I would have no problem paying $2k for an otherwise good condition car. I have done more than 10 engine swaps on these cars, remember the vacuum diagram by heart, have 3 blown motors to pull parts from and even have a spare ECU laying around. I really wish you were closer to Seattle - I even have my own tow rig...&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
Tyson Varosyan&#60;br /&#62;
Technical Director, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC.&#60;br /&#62;
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From: Edward Vinces [&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#x65;&#38;#100;&#38;#64;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#111;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#99;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#34;&#62;mailto:&#38;#x65;&#38;#100;&#38;#64;&#38;#x63;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#111;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#99;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6D;&#60;/a&#62;] &#60;br /&#62;
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:36 AM&#60;br /&#62;
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Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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Thank you for your input, the car was running fine until the ECU started giving me problems 2 years ago. I do not mind spending money repairing it, but I am not going to keep the car after it is fixed, just was wondering if it is wise spending over $1000 on it. &#60;br /&#62;
I could have missed something when I reinstalled the plenum but I do not have time to work on it.&#60;br /&#62;
I am in Pacifica, CA, by San Francisco.&#60;br /&#62;
I am going to start it again, hook up the data logger to it and check for any error codes and check for a vacuum leak.&#60;br /&#62;
Ed&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
-----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;
From: Willis,Charles E [&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#x43;&#38;#104;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#108;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x40;&#38;#109;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#100;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#111;&#38;#x72;&#38;#103;&#34;&#62;mailto:&#38;#x43;&#38;#104;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#108;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x40;&#38;#109;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#100;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#111;&#38;#x72;&#38;#103;&#60;/a&#62;] &#60;br /&#62;
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Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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Btw did you ever do anything with the injectors? Did you ever change the fuel filter? Why are you suspicious of a problem in reinstalling the plenum? It only goes back on one way. Are you thinking that there is a vacuum leak there?&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
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From: Willis,Charles E &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#x43;&#38;#104;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#108;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x40;&#38;#109;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#100;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#111;&#38;#x72;&#38;#103;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#x43;&#38;#104;&#38;#x77;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#108;&#38;#x69;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x40;&#38;#109;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x61;&#38;#110;&#38;#100;&#38;#x65;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x73;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#111;&#38;#x72;&#38;#103;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;
To: Willis,Charles E&#60;br /&#62;
Sent: Tue Dec 02 08:29:49 2008&#60;br /&#62;
Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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selling it broken is a bad choice - basically it's going to go for salvage value.  If you don't have the coin to get it running, then you don't really have an alternative.&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
Chuck&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;br /&#62;
-----Original Message-----&#60;br /&#62;
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My 91 VR4 with 150,000 miles has been out of service for almost 2 yrs,&#60;br /&#62;
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reinstalled the plenum.&#60;br /&#62;
I am planning to have it towed to Winn Motors in San Francisco for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation and repair.&#60;br /&#62;
My question is: I have seen similar cars on EBay for under $3000, I am going&#60;br /&#62;
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How much is it worth spending on a repair? I have to pay $110 for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation, probably about $150 for towing, reregister the car and smog it.&#60;br /&#62;
The car was in OK shape before it broke, tires and wheels are fair.&#60;br /&#62;
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Thank you for your input, the car was running fine until the ECU started giving me problems 2 years ago. I do not mind spending money repairing it, but I am not going to keep the car after it is fixed, just was wondering if it is wise spending over $1000 on it. &#60;br /&#62;
I could have missed something when I reinstalled the plenum but I do not have time to work on it.&#60;br /&#62;
I am in Pacifica, CA, by San Francisco.&#60;br /&#62;
I am going to start it again, hook up the data logger to it and check for any error codes and check for a vacuum leak.&#60;br /&#62;
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Btw did you ever do anything with the injectors? Did you ever change the fuel filter? Why are you suspicious of a problem in reinstalling the plenum? It only goes back on one way. Are you thinking that there is a vacuum leak there?&#60;br /&#62;
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From: Willis,Charles E &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#67;&#38;#x68;&#38;#119;&#38;#x69;&#38;#108;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#105;&#38;#x73;&#38;#64;&#38;#109;&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x64;&#38;#101;&#38;#x72;&#38;#115;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#110;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x67;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#67;&#38;#x68;&#38;#119;&#38;#x69;&#38;#108;&#38;#x6C;&#38;#105;&#38;#x73;&#38;#64;&#38;#109;&#38;#100;&#38;#97;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#x64;&#38;#101;&#38;#x72;&#38;#115;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#110;&#38;#x2E;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x67;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;
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selling it broken is a bad choice - basically it's going to go for salvage value.  If you don't have the coin to get it running, then you don't really have an alternative.&#60;br /&#62;
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My 91 VR4 with 150,000 miles has been out of service for almost 2 yrs,&#60;br /&#62;
started with plugs 1 and 3 not firing, after 2 attempts to repair both ECS&#60;br /&#62;
and ECU computers, replacing coils, spark plugs and cables, it never ran&#60;br /&#62;
well at all, gas leaks, etc. I may have done something wrong when I&#60;br /&#62;
reinstalled the plenum.&#60;br /&#62;
I am planning to have it towed to Winn Motors in San Francisco for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation and repair.&#60;br /&#62;
My question is: I have seen similar cars on EBay for under $3000, I am going&#60;br /&#62;
to sell the car anyway.&#60;br /&#62;
How much is it worth spending on a repair? I have to pay $110 for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation, probably about $150 for towing, reregister the car and smog it.&#60;br /&#62;
The car was in OK shape before it broke, tires and wheels are fair.&#60;br /&#62;
What would you recommend me to do?&#60;br /&#62;
Thank you,&#60;br /&#62;
Ed Vinces&#60;br /&#62;
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selling it broken is a bad choice - basically it's going to go for salvage value.  If you don't have the coin to get it running, then you don't really have an alternative.&#60;br /&#62;
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My 91 VR4 with 150,000 miles has been out of service for almost 2 yrs,&#60;br /&#62;
started with plugs 1 and 3 not firing, after 2 attempts to repair both ECS&#60;br /&#62;
and ECU computers, replacing coils, spark plugs and cables, it never ran&#60;br /&#62;
well at all, gas leaks, etc. I may have done something wrong when I&#60;br /&#62;
reinstalled the plenum.&#60;br /&#62;
I am planning to have it towed to Winn Motors in San Francisco for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation and repair.&#60;br /&#62;
My question is: I have seen similar cars on EBay for under $3000, I am going&#60;br /&#62;
to sell the car anyway.&#60;br /&#62;
How much is it worth spending on a repair? I have to pay $110 for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation, probably about $150 for towing, reregister the car and smog it.&#60;br /&#62;
The car was in OK shape before it broke, tires and wheels are fair.&#60;br /&#62;
What would you recommend me to do?&#60;br /&#62;
Thank you,&#60;br /&#62;
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selling it broken is a bad choice - basically it's going to go for salvage value.  If you don't have the coin to get it running, then you don't really have an alternative.&#60;br /&#62;
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My 91 VR4 with 150,000 miles has been out of service for almost 2 yrs,&#60;br /&#62;
started with plugs 1 and 3 not firing, after 2 attempts to repair both ECS&#60;br /&#62;
and ECU computers, replacing coils, spark plugs and cables, it never ran&#60;br /&#62;
well at all, gas leaks, etc. I may have done something wrong when I&#60;br /&#62;
reinstalled the plenum.&#60;br /&#62;
I am planning to have it towed to Winn Motors in San Francisco for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation and repair.&#60;br /&#62;
My question is: I have seen similar cars on EBay for under $3000, I am going&#60;br /&#62;
to sell the car anyway.&#60;br /&#62;
How much is it worth spending on a repair? I have to pay $110 for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation, probably about $150 for towing, reregister the car and smog it.&#60;br /&#62;
The car was in OK shape before it broke, tires and wheels are fair.&#60;br /&#62;
What would you recommend me to do?&#60;br /&#62;
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Sell it for $2k to someone that knows these cars. If you were around&#60;br /&#62;
Seattle, I would take you up on that...&#60;br /&#62;
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From: Edward Vinces [&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#x65;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x40;&#38;#99;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#109;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#115;&#38;#46;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#34;&#62;mailto:&#38;#x65;&#38;#x64;&#38;#x40;&#38;#99;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#109;&#38;#x70;&#38;#x72;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#115;&#38;#46;&#38;#x63;&#38;#111;&#38;#x6D;&#60;/a&#62;] &#60;br /&#62;
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Subject: [Team3S] RE: Team3S: VR4 repair&#60;br /&#62;
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My 91 VR4 with 150,000 miles has been out of service for almost 2 yrs,&#60;br /&#62;
started with plugs 1 and 3 not firing, after 2 attempts to repair both ECS&#60;br /&#62;
and ECU computers, replacing coils, spark plugs and cables, it never ran&#60;br /&#62;
well at all, gas leaks, etc. I may have done something wrong when I&#60;br /&#62;
reinstalled the plenum.&#60;br /&#62;
I am planning to have it towed to Winn Motors in San Francisco for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation and repair.&#60;br /&#62;
My question is: I have seen similar cars on EBay for under $3000, I am going&#60;br /&#62;
to sell the car anyway. &#60;br /&#62;
How much is it worth spending on a repair? I have to pay $110 for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation, probably about $150 for towing, reregister the car and smog it.&#60;br /&#62;
The car was in OK shape before it broke, tires and wheels are fair. &#60;br /&#62;
What would you recommend me to do?&#60;br /&#62;
Thank you,&#60;br /&#62;
Ed Vinces&#60;/p&#62;
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My 91 VR4 with 150,000 miles has been out of service for almost 2 yrs,&#60;br /&#62;
started with plugs 1 and 3 not firing, after 2 attempts to repair both ECS&#60;br /&#62;
and ECU computers, replacing coils, spark plugs and cables, it never ran&#60;br /&#62;
well at all, gas leaks, etc. I may have done something wrong when I&#60;br /&#62;
reinstalled the plenum.&#60;br /&#62;
I am planning to have it towed to Winn Motors in San Francisco for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation and repair.&#60;br /&#62;
My question is: I have seen similar cars on EBay for under $3000, I am going&#60;br /&#62;
to sell the car anyway. &#60;br /&#62;
How much is it worth spending on a repair? I have to pay $110 for&#60;br /&#62;
evaluation, probably about $150 for towing, reregister the car and smog it.&#60;br /&#62;
The car was in OK shape before it broke, tires and wheels are fair. &#60;br /&#62;
What would you recommend me to do?&#60;br /&#62;
Thank you,&#60;br /&#62;
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		 <title> Re: Supra fuel pump = higher fuel pressure ?
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If you keep the stock resistor, the PRR will not be overrun, and the &#60;br /&#62;
pressure will stay the same as before. I have a Supra pump and I have a &#60;br /&#62;
super-duper gauge that tells me that my fuel pressure is always 41-42 &#60;br /&#62;
psi above the manifold pressure, idle or WOT.&#60;br /&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#38;gt; Today I've run into a question that I'm simply not sure if I answer it correct. When exchanging the stock fuel pump&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#38;gt; with a Supra pump that flows around 110l/h more, will the fuel pressure rise or will run just more &#38;quot;unused&#38;quot; fuel trough&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#38;gt; the lines back into the tank ? The scenario only looks into the low rpm (below 3000rpm) area and at idle (therefore the&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#38;gt; resistor limits current to the pump and only around 7 volts are measured at it). I'd say that FP rises but it is not&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#38;gt; much if any so the ECU will adapt to the richer mixture and changes its offset on the fuel table so IDC is getting&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#38;gt; lower.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; &#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; If you bypass the resistor to give full voltage all the time, it will&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; overrun the return line at low RPM, causing the pressure to rise above&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; spec.  I don't recall hearing about issues as long as the resistor is&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; still in place.  Been a while since I've dealt with fuel system stuff&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; though.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; &#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; -Matt&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; '95 3000GT Spyder VR4&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; '93 3000GT VR4&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; '91 3000GT VR4&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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		 <description>&#60;p&#62;That's what it sounds like to me, too. I would not drive it until this is &#60;br /&#62;
resolved.  Did you check the torque on the lug nuts, btw?&#60;br /&#62;
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From: &#38;quot;rgg3&#38;quot; &#38;lt;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:&#38;#114;&#38;#x67;&#38;#103;&#38;#51;&#38;#64;&#38;#98;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#108;&#38;#115;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#117;&#38;#116;&#38;#x68;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#101;&#38;#116;&#38;gt;&#34;&#62;&#38;#114;&#38;#x67;&#38;#103;&#38;#51;&#38;#64;&#38;#98;&#38;#101;&#38;#108;&#38;#108;&#38;#115;&#38;#x6F;&#38;#117;&#38;#116;&#38;#x68;&#38;#46;&#38;#x6E;&#38;#101;&#38;#116;&#38;gt&#60;/a&#62;;&#60;br /&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; Hi Guys,&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt;&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; Leisurely driving home the other day (35 mph in a 2-lane posted zone) when &#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; I&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; felt a second or so of sudden, rhythmic jerking in the steering wheel.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; Thought it was probably a rough patch in the road, until it happened again &#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; a&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; few blocks later. The jerking was really pronounced with more pulling&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; associated - and lasting longer than previously - in a sharp S-curve a few&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; moments later; then a very sharp, almost uncontrollable series of&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; jerks/pulls a few minutes later on a straightaway. That episode started a&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; constant jerkiness of the steering wheel, not uncontrollable, but&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; troublesome, with a definite pulling sensation to the left. As soon as I&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; could get off the road I did a 360 check to make certain I hadn't had a&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; silent tire blowout, but tires were fine and I could see nothing else&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; unusual. Problem continued the rest of  the 7-mile total distance trip.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; She's been parked since I made it home. It felt as though it was coming &#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; from&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; the front; the pulling felt as though it was on the driver's side. As the&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; problem progressed, my first impression was that she was trying to throw &#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; the&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; tire. Don't know if this is enough info to make a diagnosis...all I could&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; think of was an axle problem or broken CV joint. ??? Any opinions&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; appreciated.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; Thanks.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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		 <title> Re: Supra fuel pump = higher fuel pressure ?
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&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; Today I've run into a question that I'm simply not sure if I answer it correct. When exchanging the stock fuel pump&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; with a Supra pump that flows around 110l/h more, will the fuel pressure rise or will run just more &#38;quot;unused&#38;quot; fuel trough&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; the lines back into the tank ? The scenario only looks into the low rpm (below 3000rpm) area and at idle (therefore the&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; resistor limits current to the pump and only around 7 volts are measured at it). I'd say that FP rises but it is not&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; much if any so the ECU will adapt to the richer mixture and changes its offset on the fuel table so IDC is getting&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
&#60;span class=&#34;quoted_reply&#34;&#62;&#38;gt; lower.&#60;br /&#62;&#60;/span&#62;
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If you bypass the resistor to give full voltage all the time, it will&#60;br /&#62;
overrun the return line at low RPM, causing the pressure to rise above&#60;br /&#62;
spec.  I don't recall hearing about issues as long as the resistor is&#60;br /&#62;
still in place.  Been a while since I've dealt with fuel system stuff&#60;br /&#62;
though.&#60;br /&#62;
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-Matt&#60;br /&#62;
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4&#60;br /&#62;
'93 3000GT VR4&#60;br /&#62;
'91 3000GT VR4&#60;/p&#62;
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